madam chair make a motion we come back
we come out of the executive session
back into regular session
have a second a second all those in
favor
thank you madam chair this certification
of closed session
pursuant to subsection 2.2-37-12-d of
the code of virginia 1950 as amended
each member of the board of supervisors
upon roll call certifies that to most of
their knowledge
only public business matters lawfully
exempted from the open meeting
requirement under the virginia freedom
of information act
and only such public business matters
that were identified
in the motions by which the closed
meeting was convened were heard
discussed or considered in the meeting
by the board of supervisors
any member of the board of supervisors
who believes that there was a departure
from the requirements
shall stay so prior to the vote
indicating the substance of that
departure
that in his or her judgment has taken
place
are there any supervisors who believe a
departure has taken place
seeing none if you agree that the
matters heard discussed or considered
during the closed meeting were pursuant
only to the motions by which the closed
meeting
was convened please signify by saying
yey or yes
tim lovelace yes luanne wallace yes
corey yes steve brady yes
david eaton yes voice christian yes
rebecca die
yes ma'am you have approval training
regular session
i will stand now for our invocation and
remain standing for the pledge please
thank you dear lord for giving us this
day
thank you lord for giving us our blessed
lives
thank you for giving the son that died
on the cross for us and then arose on
the third day
bless us help us to do thy will help us
to do the wheel of our county
help us to make the decisions that will
lead us forward
and to do the best by our citizens in
jesus name we pray
amen
all right we do need to uh make some
amendments to
our agenda we have
a a resolution it
that has been presented for us we
also have a uh an appointment
for uh the cpmt
meeting with dr shelton uh presented
this to us
so if at this time we have a motion to
amend the agenda and we will add the
uh resolution under
the uh county attorney katie is that
okay with you
with number two under the county
attorney
reports and request and we'll add the
letter uh for the appoint
board appointment as number four under
our uh committee appointments by the
board
so do i have a motion to accept the
agenda as it is amended with these items
all right david do we have a second
second tim
all those in favor
all right the first thing that we have
on
our agenda now is our public hearing
and it is with the russell county litter
ordinance
and we'll have katie address and talk
about the
legislative changes that need to be made
to this
thank you madam chair and i've got the
changes i don't know
alonzo can you pull them up so um
i made the changes to the litter
ordinance and track
changes so you would be able to see it i
just want to start off to say that
other than the the penalties change that
the general assembly enacted i did not
make any substantive
changes to the leader ordinance part of
it was just correcting
a couple of timelines and and statutes
that are no longer in existence
on page one i corrected um
that code section because the code
section 33.1-346
that doesn't exist anymore so i updated
it with the correct
code section and then i don't have
another change until
um i i put a note on page nine and this
is just a suggestion it's not anything
that you have to do
and under that section
it talks about any person who is guilty
of violating that section she'll be
guilty of a class two misdemeanor
uh um punishable as in this ordinance
and it says any second
or subsequent offense shall be a class
one misdemeanor when i
when i looked up the the state code
section
that's applicable to that it has all
offenses just being class one
misdemeanors and so
i just suggested that that be amended to
reflect that all violations are class
one instead of class two
just so there could not be just you know
dis disparate results
because there's a state statute that can
be enforced by a police officer who
um writes a citation for this but this
this ordinance can be enforceable by
citizens and so
i just didn't want there to be different
outcomes where one person would have
a more serious offense but it that's
just advisory and if you want to leave
it as it is there's no
there's no requirement that
that you have to change that
the next change i made was on page 10
and in that section it reflected
that an owner occupant would have
10 days to clean to rectify a situation
before
legal action was taken but everywhere
else in the ordinance it reflects a 14
day time period and the notice required
to be given under the ordinance reflects
a 14-day notice period so i changed that
to 14 and i do think you should do that
so that will be consistent and
i didn't make it more restrictive i made
it more
i made it less restrictive in that
situation
the next change i made was in the notice
of
itself on page 15 and i just put the
code sections from the top
it had a code section that did not exist
it didn't make any sense
on why it was there so it just said
pursuant to the code of virginia and all
the code sections that
are the basis of forming the letter
ordinance so that was only changed
i do suggest you make that just because
it
it had an incorrect code section
excuse me under on page 16
and d this is where these are these are
the changes that the general assembly
made
they did increase the beginning fine
from 250 to 500
and um the maximum fine from
2500 to 5 000 and that was
that was a change that they made and
that cannot if you do adopt that if you
do proceed to go ahead and adopt that
tonight that could not go into effect
until july 1
because that's when that becomes
effective and that's not a mandatory
it's not a mandatory fine it's just it
can be up to that if the circumstances
arise but that's not anything
again you have to do you can't be more
restrictive you couldn't impose
a ten thousand dollar fine but if you
don't want to increase it to the limits
they have but again
these are state statutes that can be
enforced and there can be different
results in the county so i mean
that's that's just something for the
board to consider and
um one thing i would recommend doing in
some form or fashion and i think this
would be a good thing is
our ordinance did not have this and the
statute
prior to being amended already had this
but in the loot in lieu of the
imposition
of confinement in jail the court may
order the defendant to perform
a mandatory minimum of 40 hours of
community service
and what the statute has now prior to
the amendments made this
this year is 10 hours so again you are
free to set that at anywhere you want it
just could not be more than 40 hours
but um in that situation you know people
can avoid
you know fine or jail time and can if
somebody was found guilty
of littering they could perform
community service
and then on the the penalties part i
just made that conform
with what i just talked about that the
maximum
fine could not be more than five
thousand dollars and that's not
applicable if you don't adopt
um the other and the last two provisions
and this is page 18 i'm not sure if i
said that on page 18. um i did add a
couple of sections
and to state most of the most of the
violations in this ordinance are
considered to be a class two misdemeanor
and so i put in there unless otherwise
specifically provided a violation
of any provision of this ordinance shall
constitute a class ii misdemeanor that
way it's a catch-all
if something's not properly defined and
then the last
the last section i added was
adjudication in part if any clause
sentence paragraph
subdivision section or part of this
ordinance shall be judged by any court
of competent jurisdiction to be invalid
the judgment shall not
affect impair or invalidate the
remainder thereof but shall be confined
in its operation to the clause sentence
paragraph subdivision section
part thereof directly involved in the
controversy in which the judgment shall
have been
rendered and then i changed if you were
to adopt
some of the changes that i that i put in
there that the ordin this would be
effective july the first because that's
the soonest that some of that could be
done um the last part that i added it's
just to say that
if if the law were to change or the
court were to decide
that something was unconstitutional the
rest of the ordinance could remain in
effect without you all having to come
back and
and revisit it so again those are my
suggested changes again fixing the code
sections i think is something we should
definitely do
but as far as the impositions of funds
and things like that i mean that's as
long as you don't exceed the statutory
authority i think that's
within your full discretion to decide
what's appropriate
all right thank you
with her clarification at this time
we'll open the floor for any public
comment
on the uh litter ordinance if anyone
wants to speak
yes sir
couple questions for you i'll assume
that this ordinance your past
is mandated by the state not optional
i assume that this ordinance is mandated
by state and not optional uh
choice issue the counties make sir i
don't i don't believe that it's
it's it's a mandatory ordinance but it's
an ordinance it's already an effect it's
not a new ordinance this has been
adopted
previously um it's been re-adopted too
it's been adopted previously i just
when i reviewed it i realized that code
sections have changed since its adoption
and it just made me look at it to see if
there was any other problems that needed
to be fixed
if it's not mandated why is the county
deciding to add these
additional changes to it nonetheless
well i'll talk about changing the
the mandates for the the individual
citizen could bring charges
and that's another problem i've got with
so again i think that there's an
overreach of the government if there's
not mandated
why is the county enforcement if there's
a state law
on the regulations i would take is the
state to enforce it
well as accounting they'll decide to
jump into it
that's my question so i do have a
problem with that so
you know as a taxpayer and landowner
here in the county i'm definitely
against expanding the control of this
little ordinance that's my opinion
uh again as a private system i thank
you i want to thank the board let me
speak i think you do have good
intentions
and that's great but i'm really
concerned
with the uh with the fact that you maybe
opened up a can of
worms open a pandora's box more so than
we need to be
and i'm going to give an example uh our
neighboring county
next to us washington county passed a
noise ordinance with good intentions
and the north north ordinance said by
you know they we need to
control noise and things just like
you're talking about here so they did
that
well they had people moving there this
one gentleman lived out real part of the
county
very rural he'd had a dog kennel
raising pups to sell for about 30 years
with the noise ordinance come on then
there has new people moving in the area
not sure where they knew from but new
people there he said well we don't like
the dog
the dogs the first time they come about
they they they went to
the commonwealth attorney and asked him
to address it and basically this combo
of the hurry so they really just don't
have the
the divorce to deal with and they passed
ordinance
up you know some part during this time
well when the past ordinance then some
new people moved in
said hey we don't like these dogs
barking
they wouldn't took a warrant and give it
to them to the sheriff then the sheriff
then had no choice but to enforce it
so this gentleman lived there in his
hairline 30 plus years
raising dogs all sudden an outsider
moves in and says i don't like the dogs
so it took him to court and far as to
know he lost
and then now he's losing his livelihood
as a dog
breeder living in the rural parts of the
county
because the good intentions of the board
was to do something about it
but the board members told me we said we
messed up we messed up big time
we got people involved doing something
like this he created some problems
that we didn't need and didn't expect to
happen he says i don't we got to change
that
we need to make some changes try to
address that problem but the problem is
we can't do anything about the gentleman
right now because that was the ordinance
that was a law that wasn't for us the
judge
ruled he violated the law so it's the
same token now we're going to do the
same thing here
with good intentions you're going to
create some problems if there is an
issue out there if there's a danger to
the public it needs to be addressed but
if you have state laws
why are we assuming state regulations
and adding to it or changing to it if
you're not making a strong state
did that tells us it's optional so
you're choosing to go against
the citizens of the county where there's
already state laws although
other regulations books so that's the
problem i'm going to mention one more
thing i'd like to read something to you
this is again i hope you indulge me to
read this this is the us
or the virginia bill of rights section
11. due process to law
obligation contracts taking or damaging
of private property prohibited
discrimination
jury trial in civil cases that no person
shall be proud
of his life liberty probably without due
process of law
that the german assembly shall not pass
any laws to impery the obligation of
contracts
at the right to be free from
anti-governmental
governmental discrimination upon the
basis of religious convictions race
color
sex or national origins they'll be
abridged except that the mirror
separation of the sexes shall
not be considered discrimination that in
controversy is respecting property and
suits between man and man
tribal jury is preferable to any other
ought to be healed sacred
the general assembly may limit the
number of jurors for several cases in
courts
are records to not lesson five
that the general savior shall pass no
laws whereby private property
the right to which is fundamental shall
be damaged take away for the public use
no private property shall be damaged or
taken for public use without just
compensation to the whole deserved
no more private problems might be taken
than necessary then to achieve the state
of public use
just compensation shall be shall be no
less than the value of property taken
lost profits lost access and damage to
the risk of residual
caused by the taking terms not not pro
not terms lost profits and lost excess
so again i'll stop at that
my point is in the past two or three
meetings you state how
you want to defend the constitution and
not offend the constitution
but yet you're going right against this
constitution your state constitution
uh attacking individual citizens if we
already have state laws in the book
why do we need more thank you
thank you sir is there anyone else that
wants to speak
okay state your name please thank you
uh good evening uh board of supervisors
members my name is charles collins uh
i live in the gravel lake area
castlewood 2490 gravolic road was my
residence i've never appeared before the
board of supervisors before but
i've been a resident of the county for
probably 56 years
okay i do have some concerns and i
haven't read this
ordinance i did understand that we're
y'all were debating on
on preparing this ordinance and passing
it
this evening and i'm sure there's a lot
of discussion that you need to hear
about the ordinance i haven't read it
don't know a lot about it but i do have
some concerns
from where we live in in my district one
is
our convenience site at the bonaventure
area
at carbo has been closed now i know this
doesn't directly relate to the ordinance
but then again it does too
i think it all correlates together and
i went over there to take my trash one
day and and the
gates are locked and the dirt's piled
where the containers used to be and
there's no longer container
so now we're at the hamlin site because
it's a long way for the residents over
in our area
to travel all the way to cleveland to
the new site at cleveland which is i'm
glad that they've got a site in
cleveland
well now down at hamilton area our cans
are full
all the time they're overran the bears
have gotten into the trash
if you'll go drive through there our
area has been a pretty area but now
trash is all over the side of the hill i
have talked to my
my supervisor miss wallace and she's
aware of this conversation that i'm
bringing up today
i'd like to have that address that trash
in those woods
came from those trash cans and it looks
terrible if it was in lebanon or in any
other part of the county it would be
addressed and i'd like to see it
addressed in the cassewood area because
we
we need that address down there too okay
that's one thing that needs to happen
also those can sir
sir i'm sorry um if it was going to be
short we're we're having a public
hearing just on the litter ordinance we
will have
citizens comment to address all other
issues that citizens may have for the
board
at a later time in the meeting well this
has to do with litter because when
people
come to the trash cans and the gates are
locked they get ill
and they throw the trash out of the
vehicle they're throwing on the side of
the road
our roads are trashed continuously with
trash on the side of the road
so i think it's something needs to be
looked at we do need
a convenience center that's open down
there i've gone and it's been closed
because the cans are full
now along the same lines from what you
just pointed out to me
you know i've lived there 56 years but
there's some residents
now and i don't know what's going on but
there is trash everywhere
and you know i'm a taxpayer my my
property is not any better than anybody
else's property but i don't want my
property devalued because other people
aren't trying to keep their property
going
uh you know and i saw i know this is a
difficult time with the pandemic i know
people have economic problems i
understand that
but if we have laws on the book now if
we need to create new laws
we need to enforce these laws and have
people clean their trash up
because i try to bring a responsible
taxpayer
and i'd like to see other people do the
same thing
but now the trash cans are a problem in
my area and i'd like to see that address
because that is a big problem in our
area
okay all right thank you that's all i'd
like to say
thank you
anyone else
said your name and there's three minutes
on the clock yes ma'am i understand
first i want to say madam chairman
supervisors thank you all for the job
you do
appreciate that i want to follow mr
collins somewhat
on the trash in the area
we do need this litter ordinance the
ordinance and whole
and i took the time and i read the whole
thing i've got a couple of questions on
that
but i support you and i encour
as a voter i'm encouraging the
supervisors to come together on this
let's get let's get something worked out
and this enforce
this this uh ordinance um
but now on the other hand i want to
follow mr hughes on something one
section of the ordinance that i read
and i've dealt with i'm not a lawyer but
i've dealt with the law for 30 plus
years
and when we get into opening it up
for citizens to uh
write a citation i think there needs to
be a lot more clarification on that
because we're going to have though andy
griffith's show
citizens arrest you know and we're going
to have that with our neighbors
you know do you want me as your neighbor
to come up and say hey you got to clean
this up here's your here's your citation
we can't do that
we need some more clarification but
again i support
the the we have to have this ordinance
we got to get this county cleaned up
if you drive on the highways and stuff
the trash you see
it's sad i've lived in russell county my
whole life
love the county love it want to continue
living in russell county
but it's an embarrassment if i want to
sell my land and they
started at hamlin and come up and they
see the trash
at hamlin and see two or three houses
that could
fall under this ordinance i'd probably
get half
but i do encourage y'all please
please let's come to some kind of common
sense and let's work this ordinance out
thank you if you don't care sir state
your name and address
jeff kaiser 2942 gravel liquor
castle virginia
all right
i thank most of you on board of
supervisors knows me i know me and been
around me
and it's good to see you guys good
evening to all of you i'm not going to
take up much time
the only time i can board supervisors as
you well know
begging for money for school and which
we had beg pretty hard
sometimes we got it sometimes we didn't
now
what they're telling you is true i live
there too now one other thing i want to
mention
so i can depart and let you do what you
need to do
i have brought up to two of the
supervisors here mr lovelace
and luanne about a serious curve
down at hamlin and it's never been
addressed it's been a long time
if you don't fix it somebody's going to
get killed
sir this is on the litter ordinance i'm
sorry i hate you going to tell the
supervisor for that and i hate to you
know they'll be aware of it and talk to
others
it's on 6 15. luanne you need to make
sure you
and tim that people know about this
thank you thank you sir
all right anyone else on the litter
ordinance state your name please
and there is a three minute time limit
thank you
michelle vance 99 willow springs drive
i just have a question about the litter
ordinance since i am on a private road
that the county will not keep up with
and does not do anything to and refuses
to do anything to
and won't listen to anything about it
that means i'm exempt from this correct
now the leader ordinance it applies to
prop some sections of it apply to
private property as well there's some
that only apply to the highways and
and public property but there are
sections that apply to public well our
entire development is private property
road and all all of its private property
i'm just saying that some of the
ordinance not all the provisions of the
ordinance but some of the
provisions of the ordinance do apply to
private property so that would apply to
yours
so in other words get a lawyer and take
you all to court make sure we're not
part of it right
well you're certainly free to consult
with an attorney over anything you want
to
well okay i will be anyway
all right she's got
anyone else
all right seeing none we'll close our
public hearing
on the litter ordinance
all right oh i'm sorry please
it's your name and
your interest kelly trent castlewood
north castlewood district
go ahead sir well i've
talked to our representative from my
district
for years about this and
i confronted mr shot kennedy
numerous times never did get an answer
on anything
i got i asked him for the ordinance so i
could read it
i never did get that i also
asked him to give me a list of the
number
of people that were being charged
or the number of people were being
billed
i never did get that and i asked him
about it
he said well he said we have
no control over that and i told him i
said well
who enacted this does the board of
supervisors have
any control at all never got an answer
on that
well i went to mr glispy talked to him
i never did get a straight answer from
him either
but uh i talked to
my representative which is miss
wallace when she first was elected she
said
we need to do something about this
well it didn't get done but then we come
up
and i talked to mr loudermilk about it
and he said we're bringing it up come to
the meeting
and i about missed it i was cutting
brush and my time got away from me but
he did explain it to me and uh
i did get a straight answer
and it's something that's been it here
for years
and it's never been implemented
period uh it needs to be straightened
out
it's going to come up for you right now
it needs to be
implemented and explained to the people
what it is uh but
i also on the litter
i followed the truck two weeks ago
from lebanon back to castlewood and it
was a ton truck
and it had a tarp on it and it turned up
the
landfill out there but before it got
down there
the flap on the back of it was just up
and down
and two bags of trash fell out on the
road which i don't guess they saw it
that went
on but some guy it was right in the
middle of the road and he was coming
toward it and he stopped
and got out got out and picked it up and
put it back in
but i've also i've seen trash cans
from tesla through their bags of trash
and as most of our people go and pick up
trucks
and they go down the road doing 60 mile
an hour in a bag of trash
it falls out on the side of the road
that's that's another problem
but the main thing i wanted to talk
about
was the letter ordinance
and i i hope you people can
get it straightened out and get it
implemented
and get it to where everybody
understands it
and uh put something out on it
so the people knows what's what it's for
and what what we're doing
and that's basically what i got to say
but i'm i'm pleased that y'all bring it
up
because i've been all these years and
i've talked to everybody
even freddie arrington when he was in
there for just a while i talked to him
about it
i sorry sir i'm sorry
your three minutes rep i apologize thank
you
is there anyone else that wants to speak
good evening everybody my name is jimmy
guin
i lived on 5589 lower copper creek
and i was up in detroit 13 years
and you don't get a whole lot done
by trying to put more law on people
you have to have the cooperation
excuse me take us down you have to have
a cooperation of people
and if you got the cooperation of people
they won't throw their trash out on a
highway
you want people to throw trash on a
highway just tell everybody don't
you got buyers dragging trash out of the
garbage can
kill a cock-eyed bear
they ain't nothing but trash anyway
one got a haul to the mines over and one
got a boy's brand new pickup truck he
had a
case of mountain dew in it and when he
got done with his toyota truck
you couldn't tell what kind of truck it
was he tore the doors off
and everything else we don't need that
and you give the people a break
you try to help everybody
and you minister the law
to the good of all people for the people
encouraged by the people and you'd be
surprised how many people won't throw
their
mcdonald's bag out coming up the highway
you just say let's make it all better
for everybody
let's don't get down on nobody
i was up here in detroit time i got
through with it
i had thirty thousand dollars in there
or thirty million dollars a rainy day
fund the time i got through with all
their laws and everything else
the police and firemen got one percent
of retirement
you worked 35 years and you get one
percent
try to make russell county virginia a
little bit better than that
i thank you for your time and i
appreciate all of you
god's bless thank you sir
all right seeing no more comments we'll
close their
public hearing on the letter ordinance
the updates
the suggested changes all right we'll
close the public hearing
and katie we need a motion to accept
the recommended changes
if that's the board's pleasure i mean
and you can make a motion to accept all
or some they're not some of them are
recommendations again the
revising the code sections that are no
longer in effect
and are no longer a part of the virginia
code i think that does need to be fixed
but a lot of this
like i said is with your discretion on
how if you want to increase the
penalties
and if you want to make those changes
but um
there would be need there would need to
be a motion to approve the changes
whichever ones the boards once
wants to take up okay and that it will
not go into effect until july 1 correct
if if you adopt the provisions that are
in the that were updated by the general
assembly this year if you did not adopt
any of those then you could make it
effective as of today
let me ask a question man yes katie now
everybody needs to understand that this
ordinance is in effect right now
originally approved in 2010 and it was
redone
i guess modified in 2020
so so it's in it's in effect right now
yes it was i think we re-codified it in
2020 and i didn't make any changes
and i guess i need to and i said
substantive changes but what that means
what i'm
and i apologize what that means is i
didn't change what it takes to violate
the ordinance it didn't
i didn't make it more restrictive that
you would that you could do less and you
would be violating it it's the same
it's the same terms as far as that goes
that was enacted back in i think
i think 2010 may have been the original
enactment of it so none of that has
changed it's already in effect it is an
ordinance and the only thing that i
updated was things that
one contradicted each other and two
were incorrect and then i added the
provision that if
a part of the ordinance ever was
invalidated that the rest would remain
in effect because
you want to if you're going to have an
ordinance it should be enforceable and
so that
that maintains the enforceability of it
as far as as far as enhancing the
potential of punishments that's that's
completely up to you all
um but that's that's something that the
general assembly did and so
that's part of my job as county attorney
is to advise you of changes in the law
and and see how you all want to proceed
with that but this is
a valid ordinance that's been in effect
for more than 10 years now
i've questioned for mr lester how
i'm looking here it's on page 13 and
it's titled enforcement of littered
prosecution presumption enforcement
and it says prosecution of violation for
any provision of this act may be
initiated by a
law enforcement officer litter control
officer or private citizen
what is the process a private citizen is
not going to be able to enforce this
they will
just report the action to the litter
control officer right
no it would just be there are certain
causes of action that
you go and you spell a person goes and
swears out a complaint
that if you know if you were assault and
battered you do not have to have a
police officer
do that you would have to go to the
magistrate and you would have to
swear under oath by affidavit that these
events occurred and then they would
the citation would be issued and then
they there would be a trial the judge
would ultimately decide
if the ordinance was violated or not if
a private citizen chose to do it that's
how they would have to do it they can't
just write a ticket and say you have to
go to court they would have to get the
magistrate to issue it
right just like they would for assault
and battery trespass
there's several misdemeanors that a
person can go and
and get a complaint and take out a
complaint or a warrant um
on on a person and so that's that's what
you could do
as well so that's how a private citizen
enforces it
well if you had i got a question uh
i served on town council in honor 14
years and we had ordinances dating back
to 1930 and 40.
the the the real issue with all that is
you have ordinances on the books but you
don't enforce
what's there we didn't create the
ordinance the ordinance was there before
us
but you know apparently you know there's
going to have to be
a level enforcement now my concern here
is citizens authority
to if you've got disgruntled neighbors
and i think everybody at one point in
time does
that's just going to give them a
opportunity to
go after their neighbor in in a way
i mean filling out an affidavit wouldn't
bother them at all
if they have to have an issue with a
junk car
or something that they kept going to
redo or whatever
i think there's going to have to be some
definition to this i'm also
with the increased penalties coming down
from richmond
uh and then what is it a one-year jail
or either
pulling community service yeah the the
the period in jail did not
change only the fine amount changed and
then the amount of community service
that the judge could order
changed because it's still considered a
class one
to me i think richmond is digging into a
lot of overreach when
i think we we have the authority and the
ability to take care of our citizens and
i think communication is a key in
talking to these people we had a lot of
sites cleaned up by communicating and
dealing with it without having some of
this in there that can
pose a very dangerous situation i think
between neighbors well and and that's
part of it
the ordinance requires a notice to be
given so the
before that's that's a that's a good
point to bring up
before a citizen could even go to the
magistrate to enforce it they would have
to give their neighbor a notice
pursuant to this ordinance that you have
14 days to clean this up or i'm going to
go
and and and swear out a complaint at the
magistrate and it's just like tre
i mean when you think about neighbors
trespass i mean
no there's no they can go and you know
unfortunately there sometimes people do
use the legal system to make up things
but that's what
the the court is there for and that's
why both sides get to testify
and provide their side of that and
there's also
um you know this is not it's not dealt
with in this ordinance but there are
um civil causes of action for melissa's
malicious prosecution i mean if they
just clearly made something
up and also there's perjury that can be
attached to that
i mean if they can prove that somebody
perjured themselves in an affidavit then
that's a criminal charge for that person
swearing out that complaint and so i i
do see where you're coming from
on neighbors being able to do that but
there are some safeguards there
and that are there with the general
criminal system
another question katie now the state has
an ordinance in place
is that correct there are um
there's that one primarily deals with
highways
and public lands um 15.2
901 and 927 are what give local
and local governments the authority to
enact the ordinances
the the criminal statute i'm talking
about that
um the police officers could enforce and
the one that changed the one that's
amended
um that does exist independent of this
but that only applies to services my
question
is if a citizen wanted to initiate
something they could do it under state
law
yes regardless if they saw someone
whether or not we have a
local law that's so that's in my mind
maybe it's better
that we can control it i don't
particularly like the idea
i don't want this thing weaponized uh
i don't want to be a weapon you know one
you know
these little feuds going all the time
you know i don't want one person to be
trying to get
another person but what what kind of
notification process would it
be advertised in the paper or just for
the the notification before the the
action is taken
it's actually in the ordinance and that
was the one thing it's on page
15 and it actually states everything
this is the
this is the notification
and so it's the address of the property
owner and the responsible party and it
says
you were notified to remove within 14
days of the date of this notice all
trash garbage
and and and goes through what you need
to do
and now when the county does it
obviously there can be
if we have to clean it up if if it it's
if it's a situation that's so bad that
it requires our intervention
and we clean it up that's done as that
is assessed as a lien on the property
just like with the taxes
um it's um if it takes you know if it
took us a thousand if it was something
really dangerous some kind of spill of
a dangerous substance and we had to
clean it up and it cost
a thousand dollars that would be
assessed to the property owner by us
now if you go to court enforcing that
you're not going to be able to do that
because you don't have that's going to
be the difference is the
the the private citizen doesn't have the
authority that we have to go in there
and clean it up
their only recourse would be to go to
the magistrate
and get and basically file a suit yeah
get somebody
and like most of the offenses are class
two misdemeanors
so that would be there is to get
somebody you know a fine until they
clean it up i mean if you have a
situation where somebody's violating it
they can go to court
and and do that but again there there
are processes to that
it's not as just simple as you go in and
somebody's found guilty of it there's
it's the court system
and and i do understand i mean you know
if you haven't been through that
system you don't know all the steps that
are involved but there are there are
safeguards that it's not just as simple
as i'm mad at my neighbor and i'm gonna
get him
convicted of littering well i have you
know i'm gonna
just say this i have some people in my
district either through health
or financial situations
they might not have the ability to to do
what they did i've got some that have
aged
and you know i've reach out to them and
ask them you know if mountain movers
could help them in any way or you know
facilitate an opportunity to help clean
it up i just don't like the
idea of not having that level of
communication and
and just enforcing it and having one
citizen turn on another one and say well
i've wanted this cleaned up for 20 years
this guy that i'm talking about he's got
cancer he's he's got
you know he's had a hard time and i've
reached out to him and
and he has some stuff out that he just
don't want to get rid of i mean he's
he's lived there all of his life he's
accumulated these things
and now he's pretty sickly and
i don't want to you know i've just
reached out to him you know
with a a help and he said well i don't
and
carl knows who i'm talking about uh
he's talked to him also and and he's uh
he's it's a pitiful situation but
he's got a neighbor there that would
probably enforce it
and and i i'd hate to see i'm real
concerned about this the citizens
authority to be able to
take action and and i understand i did
not change that that was already that
was already there
david will this help the on the
situation in swords creek that you sent
pictures and you wanted
us to go look at will this help with
that i've already got that cleaned up
right there next to school well not that
one but the other one up in clarksville
okay now they're working on that other
one
yeah i have a question okay
if we do if we don't do anything tonight
the one that's in effect stays in effect
correct
until we can take into consideration
everything
that we've heard and make sure that
we're good with
everything that we're talking about
changing and that everybody
understands like the gentleman or
several people have said you know
exactly what
we're doing that that's correct it would
what what is in place now would stay in
an effect again the only thing i would
you know if you want to talk about
somewhere i would want to fix those code
sections because again
anybody that's trying to enforce the
ordinance now they're giving a notice
with incorrect code sections and that
could be a defense in court
um so i mean i'm just putting that out
there if you're gonna you know the
ordinance is in place and i just want it
to be enforceable now as far as other
changes that's completely up to you all
but i mean
that's correct the the ordinance as it
is stays in effect
until not until it's modified
and if you did that as as also
you have the 10 day to 14 day change
we're giving the residents 14 more days
right now the policy is
they either they call into the county
administrator's office or they call in
to the sheriff's department so this will
give them more time
we do work with the property owners they
like david said we try to go with
the ones that's elderly we try to work
with the ones
they have the hard times some of them is
whether do
so we do this by case by case it's not
coming in
you know with a hammer each and every
time we try to work with the proper arm
to give them the opportunity to be able
to clean them up
but that's that's at the option of the
board of supervisors but
i would like to keep the 10 to 14 move
it to the 14th day because between the
weekends and them trying to get
everything logistically and the code
changes
those two things are very much needed i
i like the addition of the community
service
paragraph in lieu of fines
i don't like the fines going to five
thousand dollars 2500
is probably enough just
i would prefer to leave fans like they
are but i do i do think we
could allow allow those sections to pass
and and take a look at it i'm not
worried about the county i think we'll
do due diligence and we
won't have a big hammer but like david
said you know there's
there's potential out there and i think
maybe we can take the best of what we
have here
and and work on the citizens
well i will tell you lonzo with you and
the enforcement officer
that went out there to those two
localities and just talked to those
people that
went very good and they knew they had a
mess and they was going to have to clean
it up
and i think those types of due diligence
and communication in the areas of the
trash sites and the dumb sites and all
this stuff
needs to be addressed but you can pass a
thousand resolutions but if you don't
have enforcement behind it
you're not gonna i mean you're just
putting more ordinances on the book
you know i mean i think that
communications is so critical
in regards to this and i like what tim
said i mean this thing really needs to
be done because once you do it you adopt
it
you throw it out there it's just it's
there you are i mean i i think we ought
to do our due diligence on this and and
listen to all of our
citizens and citizens concerns and
and if there's area targeted areas we
need to address we should have been
doing it
already i mean if it's this we didn't
adopt the ordinance but the
ordinance is there right it's already
there so right katie
been there well the codes ain't right
but the ordinance is there is that
correct
yeah the codes are the codes are
incorrect but yeah that's
i mean another month will not create a
whole lot of issue if you want to table
it i mean again
i think my recommendations will stay the
same but i'm happy to look at areas
that you all think need revising i'm
happy to do that
um but that's something the board can
certainly do that's proper
i would like to say my wife and i
talked about lord david said they some
people elderly people
or maybe they don't have a pickup to
load up this stuff
you know and haul it off i mean they
will have to hire someone
and that's where the communication come
and go to those people and see what you
can work out with those people
and give them ample time may like lonzo
said it may take
excuse me more than 14 days but you know
take each individual and in some cases
you can't take everyone
as an individual but a certain cases
that you would need to maybe
address and communicate with them on an
individual basis
and try to help those elderly or
disabled or don't have the equipment to
move what they have accumulated over the
years like he said
one guy just loves what he's
accumulating but they come to a point
sometimes you gotta
let it go i made my statement i've got
stuff in my attic i got stuff in my
basement
i say i'm going throw away giveaway keep
and sell
those four categories sometimes we gotta
make that decision and these some of
these people will have to make that
decision
and let it go but we need to be i guess
you would say hell responsible of our
actions
i mean you know we do things and we're
going to have to be
responsible if we do something wrong
just a couple of comments i found a
couple of typos in it on
on page four under the definition
residential unit it goes in there and
talks about a building and
forming a single inhabitable unit with
facilities which are used
and intended to be used for living
sleeping and cooing
so i think it meant cooking so
if you fix that one
but when i asked my fellow board members
if we are able to go ahead and allow
katie
to change the code numbers so that
this ordinance is enforceable
and i would like to add that paragraph
about
community service because you know
somebody you know that's pretty stiff
penalties you know
20 even 250 to 2500
so for me i'd be willing to humble
myself and go out there and pick up
trash for
40 hours so i'd like to add that
paragraph then
and and the yellow change the extension
from 10 days to 14 days
and also to the language at the last
paragraph that
it's still enforceable with the language
go on it's um the only if you do the 40
hours
and that cannot be effective until july
first
but you can go ahead and
and katie you do need to change that
last paragraph to say that all of it's
enforceable that
you wanted to add that i would just
suggest that it doesn't it doesn't
really
add anything to the ordinance it just
means that any part of it that's no
longer
that is not valid would would not make
the whole ordinance invalid
it's already in effect madam chair
um if i may say something um last
month we had our litter officers
and our building official here and they
did
ask that we fix this so they could do
their job
and that's what we're asking tonight is
that they're be able to fix
that we fix this that they can do their
job that and i agree
with my fellow board members here i like
some of the language yes but i will say
on the um
on the citizens taking citizens to task
that's going to cost that citizen some
money it's not like you can just go
right out there
and do it for free so they're all going
to have to pay their court costs and
everything else are they not when they
use this ordinance
i'm not sure that there is a filing fee
on that because it's not as
i don't know if it gets treated as a
civil case that's something i could look
into
because it's if you violate the
ordinance it's a
class two misdemeanor so normally when
you take out the warrant
um i don't and i don't do enough
criminal work but i can
i can look into that i don't know if
they were found not guilty like if i
if i've had a warrant taken out on you
the man in it
and i and you were found not guilty i
don't know that the i don't know if the
costs get assessed to me
i don't know if that's the way it works
now that's the way it works in a civil
case if it's
if it's treated civilly there's a filing
fee that has to be paid
and it has to be served and that may be
how it's treated
in the courts that's something i can
look into and report back to you all on
well it would lend a certain amount of
comfort i guess
to those that are dealing with this
issue um
and it it would be and i'm not i'm not
an attorney so i'm not trying to take
your place but
it seems to me like that the court is
not going to do this for free
and they're not going to listen to these
complaints arbitrarily
for free and deal with it for free so
someone
besides us the taxpayers is going to
have to pay for that if i decide to take
my next door neighbor
to task well and if someone is found
guilty it's always that person who the
costs are assessed to
but i mean if they're not guilty i don't
know that in that particular case
again like a civil case you have to pay
the filing fee but i don't know if
there's a filing fee associated with
this where it's a class two misdemeanor
any other comments do you want to
make a motion to this
i think that okay i'm gonna make this
motion
i do not like the
the private the ability of a private
citizen to
but i understand that's part of the law
and it's there now
okay so my i'll make this motion
with the understanding that i want to
work on that personal
uh a citizen being able to
bring action some way and and i would
hope that the board would agree me
with me on that that we can come back
and try to figure out how we can
de-weaponize this thing but i
i'll make a motion that we allow katie
to change the codes to the current code
that we add the paragraph about
40 hours community service that we keep
the fines
as they are now at 2250 and 2500
that we allow you to add the last
paragraph about
if one issue is found
to be not applicable all the rest will
stand by themselves
and that we change the 10 days to 14
days
have i got him on him yes and in the
ordinance i will just reflect
that the 40 hours will become effective
july 1st but everything else will be
effective today that it will be
effective july 1st
now second thing all right tim
all right all those in favor
anyone opposed no i am okay
david all right
patients and the first is mr jim baldwin
of the cumberland plateau planning
district
to be discussing the dank regional sewer
project
resolution
thank you jim thank you madam
chairman chairwoman
what you have and i hope you got
my last and best iteration of this
resolution alonzo but this is a
resolution
authorizing the submission of a block
grant
application in the amount of 2.5 million
dollars
for the daint regional sewer line
extension project
this is a very important project
i think for the county and all the
communities along clinch river
addressing
water quality issues in lick creek and
the clinch river
been working for several months with the
psa
and with their engineers on putting that
together if we need to
i can read it
oh okay good so
this is typical resolution that is
required on a grant application
the grant applications opened
thursday i hope to submit
by wednesday of this week i've been
working on it as if i was going to
present it submit it so
this resolution sets forth the
parameters of the
funding uh the number of households it's
going to
positively impact that's 240
615 persons
and the resolution authorizes a
submission
and that the county administrator can
sign
all the documents pertaining to it
which i have with me there are four sets
of assurances
that are required they have to be in the
application
we've done this maybe
hundreds of times before so it's nothing
new
so i respectfully submit the application
to the board for their
consideration all right do we have a
motion to
accept this application this his
resolution for this application
madam chair i'd like to make a motion
that we accept um the resolution as
presented by cumberland plateau
thank you do we have a second second
david
all right any discussion all right all
those in favor
aye anyone opposed all right
i have the resolution for you to sign
uh rebecca and if steve would attest it
since he's close
trade
everybody's signing their their names
here
all right we'll move on and we'll have
him ready to come in the next
is mr dustin keith with the upper
tennessee river
round tape
just right there in the middle sir thank
you good evening
can you hear me okay good evening uh
madam chairwoman members of the board
thank you very much
you all had requested some additional
information about the roundtable from a
request
we had submitted to you last month
so i'm dustin keith i'm the chair this
year of the upper tennessee river
roundtable
we are a non-profit organization with an
overall interest in improving water
quality
southwest virginia representing a total
of nine counties and two cities
our major rivers include the clinch
holston
and powell our name is a little bit
confusing because we are entirely based
in southwest virginia
but upper tennessee is the name of the
watershed
that includes the clinch holston and
powell rivers
so that that name predated our
organization but we are very much
southwest virginia focused the mission
of our organization is to achieve clean
water
throughout the watershed with the
involvement of the community
in planning education coordination
attracting resources and serving as an
advocate for healthy watersheds
the round table formed in 2000 the year
2000 we celebrated 20 years last year
and has grown into a tremendous network
of partnerships among
state and federal agencies local
governments like you
stakeholder groups businesses and
industries non-profits volunteers and
many others
over the past 21 years we have garnered
millions of dollars of grant funding and
private contributions
from individuals and corporations along
with countless volunteer service hours
that have been leveraged to complete
hundreds of restoration conservation
education and cleanup projects
throughout southwest virginia
many of these have taken place in
russell county
in your packet our executive director
carol doss who couldn't be here this
evening she put together
just a selection of projects that have
been completed specifically in russell
county
so looking at those we kind of look at
four different
areas of service or projects that we do
one of our most significant is in
education and outreach
we do a lot of symposiums and summits
with
students in russell county public
schools and all over southwest virginia
every year we hold the clinch river
youth summit
and we also hold the clinch river
environmental education symposium
for stem teachers where we get to work
with teachers and show them
hands-on projects that they can do
outside
in southwest virginia in our streams and
rivers to educate kids on
water quality other things
we are working a lot with groups
like kelly mcbride's group here in
russell county with the clinch water
watch
regional stream cleanups and community
cleanups we have a great partner in
brian ferguson
brian is an excellent invaluable
resource to russell county we're
pleased to partner with him on a lot of
things for clean up
projects and then also on things like
hazardous waste collections
we've previously contributed some
funding for some of those
collection events um educator workshop
training on
river works discovery program rain
barrels
probably some of you have attended a
rain barrel workshop where you get to
create your own rain barrel
that you can use to collect rain water
from your garage your shed your house
and use it in your garden so forth
we install rain gardens so sometimes if
you have areas where
you have significant erosion or runoff
of water
that can cause damage we can come in and
help provide
information and supplies to create a
rain garden to stop erosion
so we also like i mentioned do a lot of
stream bank restoration projects
we have great partners with groups like
the
canaan valley institute at west virginia
and we leverage a lot of grant funding
from the state and federal governments
to do
stream bank restoration projects to help
rebuild some of the
natural erosion and unnatural erosion
that's taken place
over the years
so as you can see we're very active
this is uh our land and rivers and water
systems are some of
the most valuable resources we have in
southwest virginia i think you all know
that
so our group works very hard with a lot
of different partners to try to
keep those as healthy and vibrant as we
can
for the next generation so we wrote to
you last
month because the way our bylaws are
structured
around 2000 when a lot of roundtable
groups were established i think
the governor at that time established
round tables all across the commonwealth
for each watershed
we wanted to make sure that the right
people were on our board
and had a seat at the table so we
included local governments
in that list as you get to have a
representative
on our board so russell county from the
beginning
has been able to appoint a member of the
roundtable board of directors
but currently there is no representative
from russell county
whereas i'm on the board i'm
representing real estate development
so we do need an additional member on
the board from
russell county i think we had talked
about this a couple years ago i think i
talked with
the chair and with ms wallace about a
representative and we weren't able to
find anyone at that time
but we have had someone come forward a
student that i've worked with
in the past at lebanon high school mr
nathaniel rasnick
he has just graduated from virginia tech
with a degree in environmental science
and he is now working for the virginia
department of health in environmental
services and he has
expressed an interest and a willingness
to serve on our board from russell
county he does reside
on morningstar circle in lebanon
so if you all have any other questions
about the roundtable
or any questions about mr rasnick i'd be
happy to answer those
then also just want to put a bug in your
ear about funding
it has been difficult we'll admit over
the past couple of years
grants seem to be harder to obtain
there's more competition for grants
and also bigger groups seem to have more
leverage sometimes in getting those
grants
so funding has been an issue recently um
previously each super board of
supervisors
has contributed funding towards the
roundtable several still do
it has been a little while since russell
county has contributed funds to the
roundtable
so just ask that you keep that in mind
as you do budget meetings this year
any little bit is greatly appreciated
and goes a long way
so thank you very much and are there any
questions
yes please stand it okay
at this time if any board member would
like to
uh nominate mr rasnick for this
position for any discussion
i'll nominate mr rasny all right i'll
say
second with the call all right any other
discussion
any other folks all right all those in
favor of placing mr rasnick on this
board
all right anyone opposed all right
we'll put you a member and he's
interested in
cherry if i can say something thank you
for coming
thank you for your organization um i
have been a part of that before
as a former board member and
the work that is done by the upper
tennessee river roundtable is phenomenal
and our discussion a moment ago about
ordinances and i'm surprised you didn't
speak to that but anyway
the discussion a moment ago concerning
all the ordinances that we've been
talking about
this organization i have participated
with that has actually cleaned up
dump sites so keep this in mind uh
to my peers here tonight that it's a
valuable
organization and we now have a member
and
um i think that we need to look at some
funding so i'm going to put that right
out there so the public knows that i'm
very supportive of your organization
and you're right every little bit helps
but i've been on tire
uh at tire dumps that cost a lot of
money to clean up
and upper tennessee river round table
did this
so this is a good thing thank you for
coming
thank you very much thank you board
appreciate it and i'll do a plug to that
end also for
our website which is upper tnriver.org
there are there's a sign up link if you
want to volunteer for a
clean up it's been difficult during the
pandemic to host those but
as i'm sure things ease up things get
better we'll have more
so follow our facebook page and go to
our website for cleanup opportunities
and ways to donate
as well thank you very much board
appreciate it
all right guys so we have a couple of
committee members here tonight
and uh jennifer chumbley and miss alice
mead
and we have angela carpenter who is the
chamber director
and she attends our meetings as
ex-officio
and anybody else here so all right so
it's a great night to be on the agenda
it's really nice to hear all the talk
about the clinch river and the
initiatives through
cumberland to get these grants and help
clean up the river
and we also have a lot of stuff with
what dustin was talking about that's
really great too
and then of course trash bringing in
tourism
it's really nice to have these clean
roads and everything and i really
appreciate the
um the community work program that helps
us
really diligently and it's a really big
help when we have all these people
traveling
so this evening i'm really excited that
we have this awesome new website
and our i.t department here mr johnson
he is going to help us scroll through
the new website so i don't have a podium
so i'm going to come over here so you
all can get a good view here
so we had a couple of technical issues
and um everything was just increasingly
becoming more outdated
so we were able to get this really great
new website here developed
pretty fast back in january we noticed
that
we were just having some major issues
getting our maps to show up
and pictures to upload we were using
another program that was just very
outdated
and it was just difficult to work with
so
here we go on our new experience
bristol.com
april the 1st we officially launched it
and then so mr johnson's going to show
us here some of our more advanced
features
all the pages they really load up much
faster
and as you can see scrolling through
some of our tabs
they coincide with their brochure
so any guests to the county or
locals who pick up a brochure can also
go online
and it's all the same kind of info
we've got interactive links here
and kayla would you like to go to one of
those and show them
so you can see how easily we can get to
some of our
local outfitters our restaurants their
specialty shops
and we have some awesome gallery
pictures here
everything's just so clean and when you
go on here
you can actually turn it to the mobile
site but then
you can also work really easily i know
we can't show that to you tonight
but when you're actually preparing it in
the background you can actually
work on your desktop version and switch
over to the mobile site
view it and you can see exactly how it
will come up on your phone
and if you don't like something you can
tweak it there too
so this is obviously a living website
so anytime we have new specialty shops
local restaurants
activities events we can just hop on
here
and continuously update it
and we've also have of course our
facebook
and instagram but the pictures are
really awesome on here
and we have a lot of great people around
here that contribute photos
and of course i get out and take some
any chance that i get
but i think they really highlight the
county
we have so much natural beauty and
assets on these pictures
so today we had a conversation with
vtc on her monthly meeting and
dave newdeck who was with the virginia
department of conservation and
recreation
he actually informed us today that our
natural area preserves
and especially the channels are now at
full capacity with visitors once again
so if you see like here's the channels
um if you see me kind of downplay
our marketing right now on these sites
he's asked that we kind of kind of keep
it down low right now because they
are really at capacity and they um
they really hate turning people away so
this summer we may be a little low on
that
but um we will be marketing especially
with the fish virginia first
i've submitted all my information to
them and
so that's going to be really great to
advertise the clinch
and all of our fishing opportunity
opportunities our outfitters
and i hope i can show that to you pretty
soon when they get everything together
and in the future i do hope that we can
get some
i guess we'd say some action videos i've
got some willing
volunteers who are going to take some
like bird's eye view
going down at mountain trails or hiking
and
all things like that so we can post some
videos on here
um some of our favorites like the
channels and the pinnacles we may have
to wait just a little longer
before we can do that but hopefully as
things
i just don't think they're going to
really wind down because right now
outdoors
is what people want and
some of our tourism committee members i
think they've seen the
uptick in some of the outdoor activities
that they offer in their communities
and oh one other thing in the future
we really hope that we can get some kind
of like like interactive app
that you could easily put on your mobile
device and hop
right on onto this website and not have
to type in experience wrestle to get to
it
so that is in the works i still have
some companies that are trying to help
me with the idea
so hopefully there'll be something in
the future that will be able to
incorporate
with this website or instagram or
facebook and all that
and that's about all i have and if you
have any questions i love to answer them
if i can breathe i think this is really
impressive uh
one of the things that i had a
conversation conversation with jeff rose
he's a musician and they have started a
songwriter's
guild and they've got a lot of
participation
from people that are coming in and
writing songs and lyrics to songs and
i'd ask him
i put in like a request uh
to have him work on a song for
russell county okay for this region uh
i had talked to a couple of other
musicians also about it
uh that might be something good that you
guys could partner with and maybe
if the song could be written through his
organization is to work with jeff
and he had asked me about was there any
types of funding out there that could
help them to do something like this
and you know for songwriters and
musicians and stuff like that we
they have a lot of young people
participating a lot of older people
middle-aged it's just a variety and
that might be good if they could do
something and produce that
and be able to put it in the background
of this website
a song dedicated and written just
primarily for what you guys are doing
but i thought i'd throw it out
yeah any ideas that you have just you
know give me a call
and we could definitely get in
connection with them because um
on our drone videos we actually were
fortunate enough to have
two new ones done in 2020
and they are featured on the website and
of course they've been on the
facebook some as well we did have some
action music and then we also had um
kaitlyn baker one time had done like a
southwest virginia song
and it was very lovely but if we could
have a county song that would be even
more amazing
and we have an awesome i.t team here
that is really really great at helping
me incorporate
all the technology side of this and i
think it would be great so
just definitely keep me in mind and get
them in connection with me
i'll tell jeff i'm actually a member of
that even though i've never written a
song
but um of the group i've come there for
moral support
is this perhaps what i was privileged to
see on friday
maybe i'm finding out more secrets all
the time we have rockers on this board
that's the appalachi appalachian
songwriters forum
i believe is the formal name of it but
ed young is involved in it
they actually did an event i think it
was a week or so ago
friday friday two weeks ago at the
brewery
and they all came in and played some
original stuff and such and i think
they're planning on doing it again
it was pretty successful he said it was
standard room only in it so
yeah well definitely when we
um actually are going to be making some
of these action videos some of that
music
um could actually go along with some of
our themes
and uh if we just have somebody who's
willing to work with me and
get everything coordinated i think that
would be great
another opportunity let me throw this at
you real quick what's on my mind i don't
know but carl ray's daddy and him he's
been hounding me about the pea pickers
about the pea pickers and you know they
even played at the grand ole opry
and carnegie hall oh yes
sorry sorry carl
sorry but you know uh
he had actually asked us and i'm going
to go ahead and throw it out there to
the board to look at
they they got an area down at the park
they'd like to
name uh after them
there maybe the shed or something like
that but just i'll give the board
something to think about but we'll bring
it back to the next meeting but
you know they're older they've lost a
lot of members and stuff but they had a
lot of success they
played a lot of venues but i didn't want
to steal carl but since he's his dad i
thought i'd make it
one more thing while we're just throwing
stuff out there
i found out something last week that
just shocked me
and that's that david eaton once played
with alabama
well it's when i was younger my mom was
a very religious lady
and i was playing on people's cds and
tapes
in trail records in kingsport tennessee
just so happened that's when alabama got
their
rise in fame and they showed up down
there we were able to eat with them and
i was able to play
on one of their cut albums
and so that was an honor for me to be
able to do that but
i didn't know steve was going to throw
that
well i really appreciate everything and
uh
i'm in the process of getting rack cards
together
and some of the music that we had we
kind of planned to
make our rack cards to where we can put
on the website and have them the music
and the segments of where you can click
on the right cards you can download them
and
enjoy music if you're looking on them
here but they're going to feature
more in-depth things like our specialty
shops they'll have
you know just more of their information
and restaurants and the historical items
and just a few hiking and
waterfalls just um kind of everything's
just going to coincide together here
thank you and i'm really excited about
the fish virginia first and i really
appreciate your
support on that because we really need
to be
highlighter clinch and that they're
having a new marketing
initiative and i'm i really think it's
going to be awesome the way they're
going to be able to market us
through what i have provided them and
once they get it
launched with all the information that i
secured for them
i'll be more than happy to bring it and
show it to you guys
i really think it's going to look nice
and it's really going to get us out
there
because with the state park you know
it's it's official and all this stuff is
just going to keep working together
and we we're really going to be pushing
state parks
and i really hate that like the channels
and the pinnacles
we may not be able to highlight them as
much but it's not a problem because the
reason is because they're
they're overrun and so it's it's a great
issue to have
and i'm really excited that i was able
to use some grant money to
do a featured ad that's coming out in
the
blue ridge outdoors in
may and it's um they kind of had backed
off that was going to be
their um that was going to be their
event issue but since the pandemic
with all the guidelines were still iffy
they kind of scaled back on that
and made it a camping edition and i've
been so excited i've been working with
miss jennifer over here this
past week or two on getting some
information
and it's going to be like a fourth page
ad
on just our campground over there
and that's really going to help
cleveland out because
it is a pricey ad and it's going to get
some exposure
and it's also going to come inside of a
couple of our
local festivals in june like the glitch
river days and the two-day music
festival here in town
so that's one of our major marketing
areas it's just very
pricey to get into and i felt fortunate
to be able to
to help what i could and i will bring
you a copy of that
as soon as it's out make sure you talk
to shane because
you know and i'm sure you already have
all these town that's down yes
me and shane's been working really hard
together on a few things
and i just provided them a support
letter as well
for their um corporate park idea that
they want right over here they've been
clearing off for
they're fighting for some funding for
trails
an amphitheater maybe a little doggy
park so
i was happy to be able to work with
shane to to get a little bit of support
their way because
that's going to help in their grant
application
thank you you need to present your uh
bylaws to us if you would like to go
ahead i don't mind at all
um just to go ahead and if you have any
questions i'll just stay here if you
want to switch to it in your
um we need a
motion to accept them has everyone need
to read
her the bylaws for the tourism committee
yeah they're just being brought up today
to be in line with the heart of
appalachia
which is our regional um tourism
authority here i'll make a motion we
approve those
a second second all right any uh any
discussion
i just hear from all the board me this
this is your reviewed all
the bylaws and there you're good with
everything follow
okay all right all right all those in
favor of
accepting the russell county tourism
bylaws
anyone opposed all right
thank you heather thank you all
all right the next item on our agenda is
approval there minutes
um the first is for march the first a
regular meeting
and there was a couple of things in
there that i noticed
mr keane is from belfast not home acre
and our executive session was
after the meeting not five and lou i
think you had something you noticed that
needed to be
corrected before we accept them yes and
i
discussed this with um mr breeding and
mr eaton and
there's a motion in there to accept the
fish virginia first
and so that needs to be fixed because it
says
david eaton made the motion and david
eaton seconded it
so they're going to have to fist fight
over who gave you the first in a second
back there
okay all right
with those with those items corrected
do we have a motion to accept the
minutes for the march first meeting i'll
make it a second no i'm just kidding
i'll make it save it
all right with that is any discussion
all those
in favor anyone opposed
all right the second set of minutes is
for our march
8 which was just the continuation of
government the continuance of government
that we had to renew for six months
so do i have a motion to accept those
minutes for
march 8th charles
steve your second all those in favor
i didn't get to make it i thought i was
on a baby watch right there and i was
having a grandbaby
oh i thought you would have gone to the
funeral i'm sorry well i did but i had
to leave the funeral home
okay one abstention and seven four all
right that's six four thank you
next is the approval of our expenditures
do i have a motion to
accept and pay all their bills so moved
steve david thank you do we have a
second
i'll second it lou thank you all those
in favor
anyone oppose i guess we better pay
those bills
all right the next thing on their agenda
is the committee appointments and this
is for the dance
community center do you have any motions
for that
i do uh if i may i checked with those
community members that are listed on
our ward packet and
they all wish to serve again so um
i'm asking for a i'm going to make a
motion that we
reappoint bobby gullet wanda osborne
and arthur phillips back to the dank
community
center board all right do we have a
second i'll second it
all right david all right all those in
favor
you want to post next
is the uh russell county planning
commission and carl this is your
district
uh mr charles edmonds he had a four year
term and it
it has expired okay i'd like to
table this till next month because we're
getting some late
applications and you want to ask them
and
see if they want to serve okay yes all
right
all right next is uh number four is for
the
cpmt uh committee and we did get a
letter
it is from dr karen shelton
the csa board has to have
a representative from the health
department
and dr karen shelton who's the director
of the health department is recommending
amy adkins she is the nurse supervisor
for russell county
she will be the representative for the
cpmt meeting so do we have a
um a nomination for amy atkins this is
based on
dr shelton's recommendation some
movement chair second
steve lou all right all those in favor
anyone opposed all right
our next item is the citizens comment
period
do we have anyone's citizens did you
pick up
first is um
mr michael hale
mr hale
it's a discussion of the roadway and
water for glade hill drive
mr hale
no all right next is joe ratliff
if you care state your name and
thank you good afternoon my name is joe
ratliff and i'm the director of 4 county
transit the public transit provider for
russell county i just like to take the
opportunity to
thank the board for your support
the the support and the local match that
you give us
qualifies us to receive the funding
through the state to operate the service
and we do appreciate it
the main thing i wanted to mention uh
on the replacement of our buses as they
exceed their useful life
we normally ask each county for a one
percent
match to qualify us for the funding
through the state to replace them
we didn't ask for that this year and i
don't believe we asked last year
but i did want to mention that that
sometime in the future
we'll probably need to request that and
when we do i hope the board will
consider it for funding
and thank you once again thank you
mr brian beck yes i'm brian beck
i am the chief financial officer at
appalachian agency for senior citizens
we operate for county transit and just
to
tail into what joe had mentioned he has
been able to receive 100 percent
funding for buses but he does have to
ask for those grants over a year in
advance
so we would continue to make the request
to you all ahead of time
we just and we hope that it's
appropriated
we then hope that we do not have to
invoice and
request and like us like uh mentioned
it's been a one percent
uh from each of four counties we get 700
000 in new buses and you pay
7 000 it's a pretty good return on
investment to keep
buses in the community that are about
one to four years old on average
in addition i just wanted to thank the
board for allowing me to to speak
and
as far as appalachian agency for senior
citizens we do not have a significant
ask and no additional funding
but we do request annually
support for insurance for the clubs
that operate i think there's still eight
clubs in operation in russell county
we make that request on their behalf and
then they utilize our
tax exempt status
we also make a five thousand dollar
request to support
home delivered meals this is the meals
on wheels
and the funding for that program is in
excess of half a million
so spread across four counties obviously
tazewell and russell being the
the most per capita uh that is where a
lot of those dollars are spent so 5 000
again is a
great return we also
administration of all of the nearly 2
million in aging services funding
we do have an administrative pool
and that requires a 25 match also and we
have um that is a lump sum request that
we've submitted typically in january and
we would
like to it has been
it's varied between forty seven hundred
and fifty dollars and five thousand
dollars and
we wanted to clear up any confusion as
to what that specifically was for
because i don't do not think that has
been been paid
and then without uh getting us into too
much
trouble you all spent a lot of time on a
challenge earlier and
we like to create or find the
opportunity there
through some additional funding within
the last year
we did develop a chore program where we
may be able to come in and assist those
that are over 60
with some of those trash issues in their
homes
that have become a nuisance and a
problem it's not a lot of funding
and we don't have a staff currently
that's doing that but that is something
where we
if we could work together and uh fix
some of russell county's
trash nuisance issues like i said that's
over
60 and currently we don't have a staff
and a large pool of money but
it is an opportunity where we can work
together
and i also wanted to bring notice to the
fact that
public transit is all through four
county but we are trying to close the
some of the holes and gaps as far as
medical transportation
veteran service transportation and we
have
some funding and some grants that are
allowing for some additional services
and you can reach out to us for those
it's hard to get that
word out to the public but you all do
know of veterans in your community
and the
medical transportation can be to outside
of the community
it can be for the return visits uh for
specialists but it can also take
folks to johnson city bristol
outside of our four county service area
that's why we had to seek grants because
public transit
only allows for the four
community four counties that fort county
transit serves
again thank you all i do want to if
there is any
confusion we we do want to continue to
request the
annual administrative match uh
and that's in the amount i think that
was submitted of four thousand
seven hundred and fifty dollars and
we'd like to see that hasn't been paid i
do believe in a few years
three years was alice mead is a
fantastic board member for appalachian
agency for senior citizens so
she uh works you can imagine very
closely with our accounting director
carolyn counts but thanks again for for
board support and uh
if you have any questions for me i've
got a quick question that i brought up
at our board meeting
up there uh i i think it'd be a good
idea to have a statement of services
and what you guys do for all of our
board members
unless you've ever served on the board
you really don't have a clue
and until i got on that board i realized
what an impact you guys make
in this region and until you really
realize it but
to have a statement of resources and
some of the
like you're talking about some of the
things you guys do it would be good
to have the numbers and why you you know
why we
justify doing that for the for the
public give them an idea of
you know all these list of items that
you guys all the services you perform
what you do the impact with the transit
the people the amount of people you pick
up a lot of those things would be very
critical i'm sure to this board
to have that information too i'm in
support of funding you
because i now realize the importance of
having that additional funding to be
able to
do you know do your job services yes
we do operate over 30 programs i mean
case management
we're doing a lot right now and we did
not shut down at all during
covid we're we are complete with a two
and a half million dollar building in
falls mills virginia
uh the cedaw was much in support of that
we are going to expand our service area
to
neighboring four counties only for that
pace program
that is the medical social model program
that we operate as well
yes we welcome any of you who ever want
to see what goes on at appalachian
agency and for county transit
it's hard we we do have a list of
programs and services offered and i can
make sure that i get that to the board
but just a list doesn't really state
everything that
goes on behind the scenes we have
operate emergency
program that we can do some heating and
cooling assistance
fan care we did
alice participated at the vocational
center we did deliver over 400
meal boxes and each of those was valued
at 50 at the time right at the
outbreak of of the pandemic we
tried to get food from our community
into our community
as rapidly as possible so again i can
get a
list of all of the resources that we can
provide
some have more funding some have less
funding through all of this
obviously home delivered meals was the
most well-funded
we did shut down the congregate meal
sites
for most of last year and they just
reopened in march
we operate one in daint we also do the
swords creek we appreciate the russell
county board working with us to obtain
the old
swords creek psa building as it is in
much better condition than the previous
building
i think your i think your trash program
for people over 60
is something that there's a big market
for right now in fact i've got a lady
that heather put me on to that i'm
trying to figure out how to get
a bunch of her stuff all about she's it
really it's a tour program and it's
staffing it we're not you know we're
paying
we might be able to provide 10 to 15
hours of
service we can mow for those that
just go into the hospital and come back
out we're not a mowing service but we
can if somebody
falls behind and and we need to pitch
them back up
he needs a bunch of stuff hauled off yes
basically and we plan to do that two or
three and a half
it'd be a perfect opportunity for the
race program the educational piece of
what we fund
to get some of these community service
hours for these kids
and get them involved she's got a bunch
of stephanie's to be hauled off
i didn't mean to take too much time but
i do thank you all for your support
thank you guys all right next we have
kelly dale fellaini mcbride doubt
listen my children and you shall hear of
the midnight ride of paul revere
on the 18th of april in 75 hardly a man
is now alive who remembers that famous
day and year
he said to his friend if the british
march
by land or sea from town tonight hang a
lantern aloft
from the belfry arch of the old north
church as a signal light
one if by land and two if by sea and i
on the opposite shore will be
ready to ride and spread the alarm
through every middlesex village and farm
for the country folk to be up and to arm
i am kelly mcbride delft and i am the
russell county public librarian
april is national poetry month
um i encourage you to
read some poetry maybe try to memorize
one i memorized the first part of that
in i don't know junior higher high
school and one of my goals this last
month was to add a stanza or two and i
did in the interest of time i will not
recite it and also in the interest of
i'm not quite got it down i'm really
close
but um it's really long
it's going to take me the rest of my
life to memorize it um if you've
read any contemporary literature like
isabel allende is the long pedal of the
sea
each chapter begins with some poetry
from pablo
neruda so we got a copy of his works
because it was very intriguing to read
those
poems or pieces of poems at the
beginning and it got people intrigued
april is also citizen science month and
you heard from dustin about the upper
river tennis
upper tennessee river round table
clinch water watch is going to be
taking samples in fact if you're
interested tomorrow afternoon we're
going to go do macro invertebrates and
that is the part where you have to wait
in the water
i'm hoping i can find my rubber boots um
but we're going to have fun and we're
going to do another one
sometime this month probably on a
saturday and on sunday the 25th we're
going to be
on the creek side at
honneker community library 2 30 and
we're going to take some samples
be a great activity for kids i'm praying
the weather's good but i'm hoping by the
end of april it'll be warm enough either
way
and i hope you'll share that with folks
and we're back thanks to the ongoing
improvement
and progress we are doors open to the
public
we have started live programming so
um if we you see something about a
program you can come we just ask that
you register so that we
are sure that we don't have too many
people in too small a space which
has not been a problem so please come
thank you
charles collins i believe he's already
jeff kaiser okay he's already spoken
and then charlie collins i believe he's
already spoken
larry hughes i believe mr hughes has
spoken
sean vance my name is
99 willow springs drive 11 in virginia i
live in district 1.
my concern was about the condition of
the road there going into tombes hollow
tim you should know whoever designed
that or whoever's planning on fixing
that is an
idiot it's that simple my wife has
not lost multiple days going to work
now you all are russell county board of
supervisors i understand it's vdot
but vdot is not god the road
is horrible it's getting worse who digs
a ditch along a road
without stabilizing it and now the water
is
undermining the road my road went from
being 15 foot
to 11 foot to 9 foot to eventually
somebody will be in the ditch
who will pay to fix my vehicle
so i understand it's a vdot thing but we
are russell county i do pay
taxes and everything else that goes
along with it
so i would like somebody to tell vdot
whoever is in charge of that they're an
idiot
thank you
speak and citizen comment time
anyone else want to speak
all right saying no we'll close our
citizen comment period
constitutional officers i don't see
anyone
county attorney reports please thank you
madam chair the first thing i have for
the board's consideration
is the re-adoption of the user agreement
for the waste management authority
um there have been no changes to the
agreement
and we adopted this just i think maybe
last october but we've set it for a
review
to be approved every year and to make
sure that it's still working for the
three counties so
um there is one change and i think it's
got an
effective date and a date of april
today's date on there and those dates do
need to be changed to reflect
effective june 1st
2021
madam chair i move that we adopt the
user agreement
all right do we have a second second
carl
any discussion are all those in favor
okay i asked um i'd like to know if
we can get clarification on the plan of
operation
just for clarification i will check on
that it's my understanding the other two
boards
that are part of this buchanan county
and dickinson county have already passed
that but i mean i think i think it's
probably just a
it's referencing the mat the manpower
agreement that we approved last month
but we'll try to get that fixed and make
sure that can be clarified
going forward
right now i'll call for the vote all
those in favor
anyone opposed all right we'll accept
that
and the next one uh miss katie is the
resolution that we were given this
afternoon yes madam chair and i did
receive this pretty late
in the evening but basically what this
is
and this is a resolution that my
understanding the county attorney from
tazewell county had drafted
um it it's the basic of it
is it um opposes the house and senate
bill which would
um take away the coal employment
production incentive tax credit and the
coal field employment enhanced tax
credit after
tax year 2021 obviously we are a county
in the coal fields and that would be
you know have a significant impact on
our economy
my understanding and again i got this
probably about
20 minutes before i came to see you all
is that the governor
did not sign the signed the law
the law signed the bill into law and but
suggested making a change of diverting
that money into
uva wise um basically what this
resolution is is
you're opposing them doing that the only
the only concern that i had
is and i didn't you know i didn't have a
great deal of time to
um review this is in the second to last
paragraph when it says be it further
resolved that should the general
assembly remain committed to passing
house bill
1899 and senate bill 1252 that has
the russell county board of supervisors
opposes the allocation of the annual
projected revenues
of the coal employment and production
incentive tax credit and the coalfield
employment enhanced tax credit to the
university
of virginia's college of wise what i
would suggest is adopting this ordinance
but
changing that if you go back up into the
body of the ordinance
into the whereas clauses it states that
that this board finds that such a
recommendation
the governor's recommendation that go to
uva wise is untimely and premature
without consultation among
all stakeholders in southwest virginia
so i would amend
that before i mentioned paragraph to say
that we oppose
that those tax credits going only to the
university
um virginia's college it was without
um consultation among all stakeholders
in southwest virginia because
that that way it's it's putting in there
that
you're asking the governor to before he
just
unilaterally decides where this money is
going to go to consult with everybody
i'll make that motion second
any further discussion
all right all those in favor anyone
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right opposed all i have
all right next is the county
administrator's reports and requests
thank you madam chair excuse me
on the account of ministry reports and
requests first one on the agenda is
uh the 2021 march special election for
the city of virginia
of course this is between
mr hackworth and uh mrs blochwald
i would uh like a motion for acceptance
on this
so move a second
all right any discussion all those in
favor
anyone opposed don't accept those
numbers that abstract the votes
of course mr hackworth he won the
special election and he is the
representative
for southwest virginia now
next on the county administrator reports
is
a notice from the russell county voters
registration office this is the nose
of decertification of electronic poll
book
software this is notification to the
board of supervisors
that this equipment is going to need
replaced
and why the conditions are uh
not just with the software itself but
the technical issues the hardware
they'll have to be replaced in the
future
so the lake poor board said that laptops
that are currently used
that were sent to russell county which
we've had in in place since 2015
uh were compliant with the department of
election and operational memory was
added in 2019 i think mr lovelace helped
us with
the upgrade of the uh the memory in
these
but now with the new software that's
been installed we're going to have to
look at
new laptops so and and we'll be working
with the uh
uh for your registration i'll just make
sure that's done
next two years out of them anyway
what's the price tag on that one they
are
we're still looking at ranges we don't
have a definite and we'll come back to
the board on that
what about this new software that you're
talking about that that's mandated by
the state
that that's mandated by states same
group that had us mandated the voting
machines
i came to test that one yes but yeah the
uh
yeah the center point he pulled
tab version .1 that was uh by december
31st
2021 it's
made by dim tech advocate software
so she'll bring you that information and
you just present it to us
absolutely next on chemistry reports is
of course
you know continuation with the pandemic
the vaccine
promotion we are working with the
virginia department of health
and the national guard
the board of supervisors has
conveniently gave up the conference room
during this time for
pandemic shots during these times for
clinics to be able to get
vaccines to all the russ county citizens
that wanted to receive them during this
time
and now we going through from
phase 1a to phase 1b to c1c
they are now looking at doing clinics
here and also doing drive-throughs
the first one will be at the castlewood
high school
and of course uh we have been promoting
this on our websites and our
our facebook and emergency management
and of course the partners of course
russell county board of supervisors
the virginia department
of health the virginia national guard
russell county emergency management
cleveland life-saving crew
and of course the daint rescue will be
at this at this event
they will be there uh to
as a vaccination and this will be
through the johnson and johnson
now is this for ages 16 and up
this is for ages 16 and up okay
1c 18. i'm sorry 18 18. i think that's
what the message i was
given let me let me get a little bit
more clarity on that
so because i got i got one that says
we'll get clarity on that
yeah he's he's
he's going to find out i'll find out yes
sir but it is
at cass wood high school yes ma'am all
right
of course the university russ county
the first is on the count of ministry
request is the tourism advisory
committee bylaws
that was previously approved
this uh just a little fyi on this this
was
ones that were reviewed by virginia
tourism and also the heart of appalachia
and of course the tac tourism advisory
committee
next is a vdot request
um this is no more than some house
cleaning this is a vdot resolution
on the gilmer subdivision road and the
grand haven road
this is a request from vdot on the
gilmore subdivision
is the remaining portion of route 654
north of lebanon corporate limits that
will remain in the vdot system
to lebanon assuming that the maintenance
of the streets because of this section
is so far separated from the rest of 654
which is the entire south of lebanon
corporate limits it is being renumbered
to route 998.
grand haven was originally designed as
route
899 but because it is not properly added
was not properly added
when the project was done and completed
in 2001
route 899 was assigned to a different
route in 2016.
to eliminate the double numbering issue
grand haven will be renumbered
to route 999 instead
in this event that it is in the project
number
for the grand drive from 2001 which is
project number 8990-083-387
this is house cleveland housekeeping up
on the board supervisors this is a
resolution
so we can formally rename these name
numbers
based off their road classification i'll
need a motion
for the pass of the resolution do we
have a motion to accept
vdot's resolution on this road number
two
all right steve thank you we have a
second second
tim any discussion all those in favor
aye anyone opposed
next on the county ministry of reports
and request
is the cigarette and meal tax public
hearing
i need a motion for the cigarette and
meal tax
for the next regular board of
supervisors meeting on
uh may the 3rd 2021 do we have a motion
to set that date for a public hearing
may the third on
cigarette and meal tax public hearing
so move madam chair all right lou do we
have a second
all right any discussion
write all those in favor
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and note that mr reading is absent
all right next on the county ministry
request is the
the deputy emergency management
coordinator position
i'm requesting that the board of
supervisors table this until we have an
opportunity to talk
with the current uh deputy
of emergency management to and then uh
we'll come back before the board again i
asked the
uh permission from the board to table
this until further notice
so second okay all right
lou all those in favor thank you
all right uh the next thing is a budget
workshop which is simply be a workshop
there will be no
legal movement no motions made it's just
a review of the
budget that we've been working on hoping
we will
get some more final numbers from the
state and federal government as to
our funding within the county and i'm
going to set that for next
monday at one o'clock
so okay
we're just going to discuss what we've
done all right
okay next
and we're trying to get it worked in
with
our other meeting that we've got next
monday so
but we'll we'll make sure you get a copy
of it off steve and
come in and just catch up with lonzo
all right next thing we have is matters
presented by the board tim do you have
anything no ma'am
all right david yes i've got uh the
hornecker kids fishing day is gonna be
may the first
uh i know where uh board
i'd like to ask our board to maybe give
them a contribution or donation
it's a really big event and we're trying
to get back to
normalities here uh and uh
i don't i don't know i think did we give
them something the last time
do you have any your discretionary funds
left
i just wanted to make comment about some
of the comments on the trash
people were talking about the hamline
facility
being an issue and i wish
we could make mention about the project
over in sun that's
underway you know that that's going to
resolve a lot of those issues and
i'll just make another pitch the sooner
we can get the all manned sights the
better off we're going to be and we're
not going to have any more of these
issues and they may not be quite as
convenient
as some of these are but we'll do away
with all the bear
issues and all the you know issues trash
and and when we get to those manned
sites we can we can have longer hours i
think
so i'll just put a plug in for that
thank you steve
and if i can add on to i know you didn't
call on me madam chair but if i can tag
on to what
my peers are saying behind me we
the our last meeting um
mr lester gave us the plan
and we discussed it and that we're going
to try to move forward with this so i
i hate that everybody can is not
watching us on
our live feed but that's been on our
our radar and we're looking at that so i
think i thank you all for
for being so supportive of my district i
appreciate it
orris do you have any comments
you said you tabled us about
the emergency management until what time
until i can bring it before the board
i've i can't go into personnel issues
and open
so i just wanted yes sir
yes sir or sooner all right lou
anything else no thank you i took my
time with
with mr breedings thank you madam chair
could i take that back and have one
little thing
one thing what became of the issue that
was on the
on the ballot last time about waving one
vehicle from personal property tax
that i understand that it passed
the voters but it's is it still tied up
in richmond or what
is the deal with that
for veterans i'm sorry for veterans
accepting one vehicle from personal
property taxes it didn't pass
i'll check on that too and let you know
if there's any if it
if it did pass if there's anything we
can do okay
thank you but i'm not i'm not aware okay
carl oh yeah i just wanted to resort
back to mr eaton there uh i think for
the last few years uh we always give
each kids fishing day a certain amount
of money
from the county and i'd like to continue
that if we can and
go back and look at what we give before
i know uh
the kids russell county kids fishing day
i don't think it's going to happen this
year
but i mean this one here is going on and
uh if i recall i think it was
500 or a thousand dollars we give year
before last
how much money you have ever made sorry
see carl you're messing me up here sorry
don't have that much i would if i could
but i don't have that much
so all right
all right all right i don't have
anything
either so at this time i will take a
motion for
german and our next meeting will be
may the 3rd third
we're not gonna reconvene for the the
others just gonna be a workshop
we won't make any motions or do anything
that day you'll just get all the budget
and look at it and see what we've done
madam chair i i've previously taken this
up at the school where i still think you
know
because you all are going to assemble
you know you should adjourn to reconvene
just for the best protection under foia
okay
obviously you board members can be
together and not have to declare a
meeting because
as long as you don't discuss business
but it's just for me if you're going to
be discussing business
whether you're voting on anything or not
you should you should
have an official meeting okay all right
that'll be fine i'll take a motion
that we will reconvene next monday david
all right one yeah
and do we have a second
okay thank you horse all right we will
meet next monday at one o'clock go over
the
budget thank you
all those in favor
understand that won't be there